Showing posts with label winterize rv. Show all posts
Showing posts with label winterize rv. Show all posts

Monday, November 17, 2014

Winterizing ~ Keeping RoadAbode the RV in the Pink

RoadAbode at Country Acres, Gordonville, PA

Come November, the RoadAbode Crew gets a little melancholy. Late fall means getting ready for all the exciting things happening to celebrate Thanksgiving, Christmas, & the New Year. We get to see friends and family over the holidays, and prepare for special services and events at Roxborough Church. But even though we are enthused for all the joy occurring during the season, for us November also means the last RVing trip of the season. Our tradition is to put RoadAbode to "sleep" from the end of November to mid-March.  The winter months are just too busy for our family, and too cold for our bones in the Mid-Atlantic United States.
There are a few things needed to be done in the mid-eastern US to protect an RV over the winter months. The process includes draining tanks, prepping the water heater, getting special antifreeze in the water lines, checking the roof and a few other things to protect our home on wheels. One year we winterized too late and fortunately only lost our kitchen faucet to a hard enough freeze. When reviewing our process, understand that each manufacturer is different, and valve locations and processes can be dissimilar to what we do for RoadAbode. It's best to check with any owner manuals and manufactures directions you have. This list should give you a good starting point of what needs to be done to keep on RV "in the pink" over the cold months. Here's a look at our process for making sure RoadAbode is snug over the winter.
Each year our last November RoadTrip is usually to Country Acres Campground in Gordonville PA. We've written about Country Acres as one of our top spots in the past. Since we don't have adequate connections at storage or home to winterize, the RoadAbode Crew selects this RV park for a few reasons that help in the winterizing process.

What we look for in a "Winterizing" Campground

  • We make sure the campsite we select has full hookups and is level. This helps with flushing out the black (sewer) and grey (waste-water) tanks. 
  • We select a site close to the restrooms. Country Acres has modern and very clean restroom and shower areas, and an added bonus are heated floors. This really makes us happy on brisk November mornings!
  • We can stay till 2pm.  This is still a family outing, so don't winterize until our departure day. It's great having plenty of time to finish the winterizing process. Some campgrounds want you to leave by Noon or 1PM. The extra hour or two let's us still enjoy our morning, and maybe a quick shopping trip or quick adventure out.
  • The views are great. We're still RVing, so even though some would think of this a working weekend, for us it's all part of the adventure of owning a motorhome. In reality the work is only a short time of our weekend, so we like to make the most of it. Country Acres is right next to beautiful Amish farmland. If we pick the right weekend, the farmer and his team of horses will be tilling under his fields for next years crop. It's interesting and beautiful to be in Lancaster in the fall! Even when working on winterizing, we try to enjoy as much of our weekend as possible. We wait to do the work of winterizing until Sunday, preferably late morning. When we work together, it takes no more than an hour and half. Before that time, we are out enjoying all the shopping, flavors, and sights of Lancaster County.
Our winterizing process is done in this order:

Drain and Flush all Tanks -

We start by emptying all our tanks.  The process is pretty simple. Since we are working with sewage and waste-water, and items that touch these products, we always wear rubber gloves when working with the hoses and connections to these tanks. The Black and Grey tanks have individual gate valves with manual pull handles.
Sewer Hose
Sewer Hose and Flush King setup
The two connect together at a built in wye connector. We use a "Flush King" clear fitting that has it's own gate valve, and a connector with a ball valve to turn on/off a connector to a water hose. The water hose connector also has a built in back flow preventer, which is important so you don't accidentally contaminate your water supply. We do not use our white fresh water hose for this job, so there is less danger of cross contamination.  We use a gray-colored water hose so that there is a distinct differentiation between the two This is important for keeping our fresh water sanitary - all our fresh water connections and our waste or sewer connections are stored in separate bins.We connect our expandable sewer hose, one side  to the Flush King, and the other to the campsites sewer connector. We like the Rhino flex hose because the connectors are easy to grab and lock together, and the hose is sturdy and built to last. Once everything is connected, wee open the gate of the black first. Once we see the black tank is not releasing any more waste-water, we do an extra back flush (or sometimes two) of water from our gray hose to help clear the tanks of any solids clinging to the inside walls.We rarely have issues with our sewer tank, as we flush it out once almost every trip. After the black tank is complete we close it's gate valve, and we repeat the process with the gray water.
For the fresh water tank, we access valves under our rear queen bed. These valves allow the fresh water tank to empty from underneath RoadAbode. Depending how much water is in the tank, the process to empty  the fresh water can take  a few minutes to an hour.
Empty the Water Heater -
Emptying RoadAbode's Water Heater
Water Heater
RoadAbode has a six gallon water heater. Preparing it for winter is a two step process, but relatively easy. The water heater is located under the kitchen area sink. First, we go outside to the access panel, twist the spring clasp (which oddly looks like a flip-top from a soda can) and lower the access door. We use an adjustable wrench to open the nylon drain plug. I recommend picking up a pack to have as backup, the spot is tight and I seem to mess up the head of the plug after a few times emptying the tank throughout a season. To quicken the release of water, I flip up the release on the hot water pressure valve and open the hot water faucet in the kitchen. Both let air into the tank help displace the water. Once empty,  I close the faucet and pressure release valve, and tighten the water heater plug back in place. Close the access panel, and on to part two under RoadAbode's kitchen sink. First I have to open the access panel underneath the sink. Once this is lifted out of the way we can peek past the "house" heater duct work and see a single plumbing valve. I set this to the "up" position, which is important for our next part in winterizing. The valve causes any water in the pipes to bypass the water heater. Once we are finished our next set, I reset it back so that the water heater will be ready for use when we de-winterize in spring. As a reminder, I just lay the access panel to the side for now.

Fill Freshwater system with RV antifreeze -

Important safety tip - RV antifreeze we use is specially formulated for fresh water systems. Never use vehicle coolant/antifreeze in your fresh water or waste water systems! Even small amounts of the wrong stuff can make someone sick. No matter what you read in a RV forum or some RVing old-timer (and I think I'm actually an old-timer!) tells you about using automotive antifreeze, don't. Not good for the environment, not good for septic systems, not good for pets or people, and it's not even cheaper!
Winterizing with the "Pink Stuff" - RV Antifreeze
We are fortunate to have a setting on our water control panel located in the road-side basement, allowing us to add RV antifreeze right from the jug! Some RV's have to use a second pump or hand pump antifreeze through their fresh water inlet. Whichever way it needs to be done, the importance is to displace any water in the system with the "pink stuff". Fresh water antifreeze is a bright pink. You won't confuse it with the neon green of automotive antifreeze.
RoadAbode's Water Works
RoadAbode's Water Works

With RoadAbode, we open the basement door, flip the valves to the correct position, and connect the "feeder tube" to the winterization inlet on the water control panel, it's other end goes into a bottle of RV antifreeze.. Then we go inside, flip the pump switch on, and open faucets one by one until the water coming out is bright pink. We do this for our kitchen, shower, and restroom faucets - hot and cold, and the toilet. We shut off the pump, and retrieve the bottle of RV antifreeze from the basement. Into each drain we pour some of the antifreeze to displace any water in the drains "P" traps. Last job of the "pink stuff" is to pour some into the toilet and let it sit in the bowl.

We usually have about a third of a bottle of RV antifreeze left. This we leave in RoadAbode and use in case someone needs to use the toilet while visiting RoadAbode December through March. We don't "de-winterize" until April in the Philadelphia area. The RV Antifreeze is usually listed as working until -50, which is plenty fine for our area. Dilution with water does not worry us as it is so concentrated. In ten years we have only had one issue, and that because we waited to winterize because of an outing with friends. Fortunately, we only lost the original kitchen faucet, and replaced it with a much nicer from Home Depot in just an hour.(It was so easy even I could do it!)

Check the Roof - 

Installing more Maxx-Airs in August 2014
Installing more Maxx-Airs on the roof
If not this weekend, then a week or so before or later we like to get on RoadAbode's roof to check for tears, cracks separating seams, or broken vent covers. We are pretty diligent and do this throughout the year, but it's always good to check before putting RoadAbode to bed for the winter. If we find an issue with the roof, we repair either with Lap Sealant, or Eternabond Roofing Tape. We now have all our vents covered with Max-Air vent covers. These are installed over the existing vents, allowing us to leave them open, even in wet, windy weather. The Maxx-Airs seem to be more UV resistant than the vents were. Maybe we should post how that install went (I didn't even do it, Amy did!)

Last Few Things - 

Before we close up for December through March, we do a few other items to keep RoadAbode happy and safe.
Check and Disconnect the Battery - We have a knife switch (a quick disconnect on the pole of the battery) on RoadAbode's house battery that we disconnect. We do this every time we go to storage after a trip. On our last trip, we also look for any corrosion, or if the battery is leaking. So far, we're in 10 years we are on our second house battery.
Have Service Done on RoadAbode's Chassis -  Pennsylvania requires a state inspection, so we usually take RoadAbode in October or November for this annual checkup. Besides the state inspection, we have an oil change done, and all fluids checked or replaced as needed. All hoses and belts are checked. We take RoadAbode to a shop that specializes in truck repair, so they can put her on a lift and check her underbelly and suspension.
Clean - I'd be remiss in not saying that we give RoadAbode a through cleaning before heading back to storage. We take all the rugs out, (matching, various size bath rugs with rubber bottoms are perfect for us as area rugs) sweep the vinyl floors and clean all inside surfaces. All bedding come home to get cleaned. Any stored food items (we always have extra snacks!) are removed and carted home. It's almost sad RoadAbode's so barren!
Cover RoadAbode's Tires - When she's finally back in the parking spot  in storage, we put wheel covers on RoadAbode's wheels to keep the sun and weather off them. This helps keep the tires from prematurely aging, and having the chemicals in the rubber leach out.

For now, RoadAbode is all set for winter. December through March, we visit, perhaps do a few update projects, run her engine and generator a few times, and shovel snow if there's a lot. Mostly though we dream and plan for our next RVing adventures come early spring! We enjoy our RVing lifestyle!

Items Mentioned in this blog post
Below are some of the products we mentioned while winterizing RoadAbode. If you click on the Amazon links below and purchase, the RoadAbode Crew get a small commission and you pay the same price. These are items we use in keeping RoadAbode healthy and fun to be around. Read our disclaimer for more info. If you can use anything below - thanks in advance for helping us out.

Saturday, November 26, 2011

Last RoadTrip

last roadtrip of the year. Top off the fueltank, put on the tire covers, and close RoadAbode up for the season. see you next year, olde friend.

Saturday, November 12, 2011

That time of year again, winterizing for the end of season in Lancaster.

Sunday, November 23, 2008

RoadAbode - Tucked in for the Winter

After our outing with the RPC YA Group, was time to winterize RoadAbode. After Sunday services, had lunch, then started working with Amy on the process. Dumped most of the water out of the fresh tank into the Black and Grey, then added a little "Tide" for good measure to the black so it would get cleaned out well. Next, Amy crawled under the bed and set the valves to dump the remaining water from the fresh tank, while I emptied the hot water heater and flipped the valve under the galley sink to shut it off from the system. Hooked up the special "winterizing hose" to the waterworks panel. Switched all the valves back to their original places, then ran the pump enough so that the pink non-toxic antifreeze was run throughout the pipes.  We put the mattress and everything back in order, pulled out any foodstuffs, and then I headed up to do the last dump of the black and grey tanks. Filled the gas tank, and then got to her spot in storage. Put some pink antifreeze in all her drains, some in the toilet, and replaced the hot water drain plug. closed up all the blinds and windshield covers. Last step, put her wheel covers on. Was getting pretty dark when I finished. Looked around, made sure didn't forget anything, and bid RoadAbode adieu for the winter. We'll stop and run her, but basically, next real trip won't be til at least March. Was a fun camping year....plenty of memories.

Sunday, November 19, 2006

Lancaster Weekend

Beautiful Lancaster! We love this place - makes for a quick getaway!
Got out of work early - 12:30pm on Friday. Amy already had RoadAbode home and mostly loaded up. I connected the towbar and added some of my own "essentials" After the girls and Amy were done @ the After School Program, We headed to a quiet street behind RPC to hook up RoadToad. Only problem I later figured out - that the Evenbrake receiver had problems picking up the EvenBrake signal - because we were under the Radio/TV transmitter Tower! Added 20 mins. to our Start figuring out that kink.
Ride up was nice - though driving in the dark (already at 6pm!) takes a higher level of concentration.
Spot @ Country Acres is beautiful - perfect for a cold weekend - on the upper level right near the bath/laundry building. This is perfect because besides doing some Christmas shopping @ the outlets, we are also going to be winterizing RoadAbode (No using the plumbing onboard after that) . The pad is nice and level, with a nice covering of gravel - so things won't get muddy when we empty the fresh tank during winterizing. We setup electric for the fridge, and put out our welcome mat, and jumped in RoadToad for a quick ride down the road to Paradise Pizza. This place has great pizza, and nice people working there. If you go - try the Chicken Ranch pizza for something different!
After dinner, we headed back to the campsite, kicked on the heater, and watched some cartoons on cable. Bedtime came around quickly! One disappointment @ Country Acres is the WiFi is weak - slow and disconnects. I connected to work once - and then had issues after that. And I can see the antennae on the roof of the bath house from my window - 50 feet or less away!
Love the view though -Plenty of Stars are out tonight!
Saturday Morning made coffee, took showers (not all that cold out) and headed out to Bob Evans for breakfast. Once filled and raring to go, we headed out to the outlets , hunting down gifts for friends and family. As the day wore on, it looked like lots of people had the idea to start Christmas shopping early. We headed back to RoadAbode around 1pm - and started in on winterizing her. After a little confusion on which way the fresh tank valves were to be placed, we got her all drained and filled with the bio-safe antifreeze "pink stuff" in under two hours. Amy took a tour of the roof, deemed it properly sealed, and we were all done. Since there was still some daylight left, we decided to head east and tour. One of the places the girls wanted to visit, and a place that I really enjoyed, was the The National Christmas Center
At first I thought it would be ho-key but it ended up really helping me to get in the "Christmas Spirit" The most favorite parts for me were the 5&10 Store, and reading along with the girls in the storybook village - and the very end - where you walked thru their lifesize, realistic nativity. Very inspiring!
After our trip to long ago and down memory lane, it was getting dark, and we were getting hungry. We did stop at "Basketville - which is closing. Even at 30% off - they were still overpriced!
We continued on - past Country Acres - and planned on eating @ Dutch Haven. unfortunately, it now only makes Shoo-Fly pie and other desserts, and holds a large gift shop - no more diner.
So we went to an another standby - Cracker Barrel! Was a short wait - but dinner was great! (I love their grilled catfish and fried okra!)
After dinner, headed back, and relaxed with some desserts from the Pepperidge Farm Outlet and some Disney Channel (and some History Channel later for me!)
Sunday Morning Sat outside with some coffee - beautiful morning! Chilly - but not cold, there is no breeze to put the chill across your skin.
Hit the shower, and then had breakfast that Amy prepared, English muffins, sausage, egg and Cheese sandwiches - yummy!
Slowly packed up - and pulled out with RoadToad connected by 11am. Took it nice and slow, dropped off RoadAbode to storage, and made it home before 3pm.
A great, relaxing weekend - and got some work done too!

Monday, October 30, 2006

Clean Bill of Health!

RoadAbode got a clean bill of health - picked her up and did the reverse of Thursday night. Was a nice peaceful night. New Oil, Flushed Coolant - Checked the belts and hoses - All set for winter...Pics below are pulling into storage.









Friday, October 27, 2006

Not Done Yet

Made a Call to Bergey's around 6pm - Not done yet. Fortunatly not using RoadAbode this weekend. Since they close at Noon Saturday - will have to pick her up Monday Night.

Thursday, October 26, 2006

Checkup for RoadAbode

It's time for RoadAbode's annual "Checkup" - Yup - PA State Inspection Time
So after work I drove up to the Storage Place, pulled RoadAbode out, hitched up RoadToad behind and Headed to Bergeys Truck Center in Franconia, PA . Techs are friendly, and seem competent. The ride was nice, even though some of those country roads are pitch black. It was great just taking my time and catching wiffs of woodfires in the fireplaces of homes we passed. Once at Bergey's parked next to two garbage trucks (in for service) and
saw some really nice A Class motorhomes too. Besides the inspection, having oil changed, coolant flushed, and checking belts and hoses. Ride home was quicker - less traffic - but not s fun as driving RoadAbode! Will pick 'er up tomorrow if she's ready.

Saturday, November 05, 2005

A Bad Day Camping is Still Better Than a Good Day @ Work....

That became our mantra as we took RoadAbode out to Winterize her.
Winterizing is basically draining out all the water from the Freshwater tank and Water Heater, putting Biodegradable Anti-freeze in all the waterlines, and flushing out the Black and Grey Tanks. We also condition the coach (house-part) battery.
It was a little work, but became much easier because we parked in one of the side-lots @ French Creek State Park in Elverson, Pa. Along side the one area was a beautiful playground the girls took advantage of while Amy & I worked on prepping things.
In the basement area of RoadAbode is a special connector that is tied into the fresh water system. We attach a short piece of hose and put this in a bottle of the "pink stuff" Under the bed are special valves that we turn that drain the fresh water tank. We also open the drain plug for the Hot Water Heater, and close the valve so that the water heater is bypassed. Once Both are Drained, we closed the main valve under the bed again, and started the waterpump. As we did this, we opened all the watervalves in RoadAbode one by one and let them run until we saw the pink antifreeze flowing out. We did this for the shower, the kitchen sink, bathroom sink, and toilet.
After prepping the freshwater system, we then topped off the battery with distilled water.
Amy made the girls lunch, then they helped by taking out the rugs for a 'beating'.
To finish off our "workday" with RoadAbode, we drove over to the campground @ French Creek and paid $8 to dump our gray and black tanks.